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spam gone

I am curious... What is the point in responding to all of the spam?
And what is the meaning of the subject line? Your responses to the spam
are actually revealing the spam to me, because I have so far been
successfully filtering those. Must I filter your messages too, or are
you a real user of this group?

Shannon Jacobs wrote:
> spam gone

CRPence wrote:
> I am curious... What is the point in responding to all of the spam?
> And what is the meaning of the subject line? Your responses to the
> spam are actually revealing the spam to me, because I have so far been
> successfully filtering those. Must I filter your messages too, or are
> you a real user of this group?
>
> Shannon Jacobs wrote:
>> spam gone

Some news readers will show the last past, which is null after I've deleted
the body of the spam and the spam subject.

In theory, the proper solution is to report the spam to the x-abuse address
(in the header) and the responsible party is supposed to remove it.
Unfortunately, email to that address bounces. Evidently the remaining
solution candidates are for IBM to either maintain this server properly or
shut it down... I only monitor a couple of newsgroups here, and they seem
dead except for spam, so I'd have to vote for shutting it down. (Actually,
there are a couple of other options, but they seem too time consuming for me
to justify pursuing them.)

Seems obvious that the spam is not beneficial for IBM's reputation...

It is odd given the server is intended for external use that the abuse
address is bogus; the only support for the groups is via a Lotus Notes
database inside of IBM. Sillier still is that the LN database gives
visibility only to one's own posts, so I could not even determine if my
complaint might be a duplicate, by searching first. I reported that the
abuse address was bad and complained about the horrible job of filtering
they were doing [i.e. they were\are doing none]. Best I can infer, my
concerns were ignored, and they merely removed some of the reported spam
from the web-based forum view. I did notice that they are at least
expiring some of the spam articles. I concur that for lack of any
apparent oversight, they should just close down the groups that are not
active. Better still would be to make the groups either moderated or at
least require authentication with an IBM.com user [which is an email
address] so they could easily disable any used to spam.

Regards, Chuck

Shannon Jacobs wrote:
> <<SNIP>> In theory, the proper solution is to report the spam to the
> x-abuse address (in the header) and the responsible party is supposed
> to remove it. Unfortunately, email to that address bounces. Evidently
> the remaining solution candidates are for IBM to either maintain this
> server properly or shut it down... I only monitor a couple of
> newsgroups here, and they seem dead except for spam, so I'd have to
> vote for shutting it down. (Actually, there are a couple of other
> options, but they seem too time consuming for me to justify pursuing
> them.)
>
> Seems obvious that the spam is not beneficial for IBM's reputation...